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1 million $, 50 names, zero leverage.

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Looks good to me. How are the results with gross leverage = 1 (in contrast to average of ~1.4)?

The sharpe drops to 1.3 because the spreads are very small.

Looks great!

seems contest worthy

A few suggestions:

  1. Your leverage creeps up over time. I suggest fixing the normalization so that it is always ~1.0. Although Quantopian allows leverage up to 3.0 for the contest, I was told that they normalize to 1.0 for comparing algos.
  2. Typically, I run backtests back to the earliest possible date. I suggest doing the same, unless there is a reason to think that your strategy only applies after a certain date.
  3. You need to run backtests at $10M, since this is the contest requirement (and presumably, the capital level relevant to the fund).
  4. I've been working on a long-short mean reversion strategy, and I have a suspicion that there is something fundamentally different about periods of fear-uncertainty-doubt (FUD) and steady bull or irrational exuberance periods. Your algo may reflect this, as well. It is interesting that the Q tear sheet has a special Stress Events section, which curiously includes some non-stress events, as well. If most of the performance of an algo results from gains when the market is stressed (dropping/choppy), then it'll under-perform if the market undergoes a long, steady bull run. It appears that your algo carries this risk, so you might want to dig into it.

Thanks very much Grant. I will take a look. Unfortunately most statistical arbitrage strategies require leverage else won't work.

Your leverage roughly monotonically increases with time, which suggests that you may have a normalization problem. If you normalize your portfolio weight vector to 1.0 and use order_target_percent, it'll fix it. Then, you could always add back in dynamic leverage by just multiplying the vector by a factor.

Regarding leverage, if your algo is selected for funding, my understanding is that you won't have control over it anyway. Q will normalize to 1.0, and then dynamically allocate and leverage across the algos in their fund. You'll get a percentage of your algo's leveraged returns, based on their decision. In my backtesting, I just keep the leverage at 1.0 (but for contest entries, I jack it up, although it is not obvious if this is the best choice).

Another comment is that at leverage 1.0 and a backtest back to 2002, I suspect that it is really challenging to get a Sharpe > 1.0 with a relatively large, diversified universe, without some form of bias/over-fitting. It'd be interesting if this is born out by the backtest results Q is seeing for the algos they've funded, but my sense is that they'll keep that info close to the chest.

But, if they get a bunch of orthogonal strategies that can be mixed and matched dynamically in a predictable fashion, then maybe SR ~ 1.0 is just fine? Again, it would be interesting to see what they've selected thus far, including the orthogonality (uncorrelated-ness).

I know for a fact (from a classmate who now heads systematic trading at a hedge fund here) that there exist strategies with Sharpe > 2 at leverage 1.0 for more than 10 years. So it is possible.

Yes, I had like to know more about the algos they have selected thus far, but they are very silent about it. Maybe they should put up a presentation on these algorithms and how P/L looks. I had be very interested.

@Grant, while we are at it, can you take a look a this post and tell me your opinion. Since you are the expert on this subject.

Regarding realistic SR's, the guidance on ~ 1.0 comes from this book:

Awhile back, I recall that Q said they'd be interested in as low as SR ~ 0.7, although the recent CIO blog post suggested to me that they are looking for stand-out algos, with really high SR's. Perhaps at an institutional scale, it is doable; the book referenced above is focused on individual retail traders.

Pravin -

Here's something I've been dinking around with, for comparison (it is by no means optimized). You can see that the leverage is ~ 1 and that the long/short exposure is at ~50/50.

There nothing special about the universe it draws from; it is basically the top 200 stocks, by market cap (once the tradeable universe thingy gets released, I'll try that).

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